coltakashi ([info]coltakashi) wrote,
@ 2008-05-15 17:06:00
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California Supreme Court invalidates citizen initiative prohibiting gay marriage
 Today the California Supreme Court announced a ruling, by a majority of 4 to 3, that the citizen initiative of several years ago which prohibits recognition of gay marriage was "unconstitutional" under the California state constitution.

I scanned over the majority opinion (about 140 pages) and read the two dissents. The three dissenting judges agreed that the 4 member majority is simply reading its own prejudices into the California state constitution. There is no explicit language in that document that specifically says that homosexuality cannot be considered in law, or that there is an absolute right of any person to marry anyone else (the majority specifically asserted that its ruling does not serve as a precedent for incestuous or polygamous marriages, but their rationale for the distinction–the rejection of such marriages by the people of California–applies equally to homosexual marriage). 

The majority argued that (a) even though the majority of California voters specifically voted to prohibit gay marriage and (b) the legislature has not passed any laws to specifically authorize gay marriage, the fact that the legislature has passed a Domestic Partners Act that gives homosexual couples virtually all the legal rights of married couples is a de facto recognition by the legislature that homosexual marriage is appropriate, and therefore it is a right protected by the state constitution. 

The dissenting justices pointed out that the majority is acting outside its own constitutional authority and creating what is clearly a new “constitutional right” out of whole cloth, without precedent in California constitutional law, and specifically contrary to the explicit intent and understanding of the constitution by both the legislature and the voters in enacting the whole complex of laws that specifically address the topic. 

One thing this decision does is warn other states that they cannot allow any kind of “domestic partner” law to take effect, because it will be seized on by advocates of gay marriage in state courts to become an official endorsement of a view that the state’s constitution recognizes gay marriage. A state cannot go part way to gay marriage and hold the line. 

The city of San Francisco was already issuing marriage licenses to gay couples despite the clear illegality of them under the state initiative passed in 2000 by voters. It will immediately resume doing so.

The next step will be that gay couples in Utah and other states will get married in San Francisco and then demand that state and local governments in Utah recognize their marriage as valid. Any resistance will result in litigation, which will tie up every state in the union (except for Massachusetts and California) in lawsuits. 

I think one of the possible outcomes of this is that John McCain is going to have to get off the fence about a Federal marriage amendment and recognize that the Federal government cannot avoid getting involved in the issue, because marriage is an interstate matter involving people moving to other states and people wanting to get divorced in other states and making child custody and property and support claims in other states. Senator Bennett is going to have to revisit the issue too. His opposition to a Federal constitutional amendment killed it last time around. 

Depending on how it plays out, this could be a major issue in the elections this Fall. But if the Republican Party refuses to take a stand on the issue nationally, under the lead of McCain, it is going to lose the support of its normal constituencies and will be relegated to another long term position of minority power because it does not stand for an alternative to the “progressive” agenda. 

Because there are hundreds of thousands of Mormons in California, this is going to have much larger consequences for the Church than the Massachusetts decision did. The tendency of all pro-homosexual legislation in California is to punish anyone that does not support the legislation. I fully expect that homosexual activists will look for ways to punish churches that hold fast against endorsement of homosexuality, and attack their tax exemption as charitable organizations, both for property taxes and income taxes. Rather than settling anything, this decision will be like Roe v. Wade and create perpetual wounds of lawsuits that attempt to force churches and their members to accept and endorse behavior that is morally objectionable, with little support from the courts for the right of religious freedom on such issues. 

And the comment is correct that there will clearly be a movement to recall the members of the Supreme Court majority at the next opportunity. After all, since this is a matter of them abusing their authority, what remedy do the citizens have other than that? 

Personally, I think this issue should be the basis for a broader based constitutional amendment beyond one merely reinstating normal marriage. The abuse by courts of their authority to interpret constitutions should be remedied by the ability of Congress and legislatures to overrule findings of unconstitutionality by a specific legislative majority. Courts are just made of judges who are (usually) lawyers. They are not inherently wiser in judgment than the majority of the people. If that were so, we wouldn’t have elections. We would just let judges decide everything.


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[info]musemom
2008-05-16 02:53 am UTC (link)
I heard a comment made by a former judge who is a Fox news contributor, who said that the way this is stated will require all people authorized to perform marriages in CA to comply with this decision. I imagine this applies to Bishops as well. I cannot even imagine how this is going to apply to temple attendance. If a gay member has been chaste to this point, but can now legally be "married" then what is to stop them from demanding to be allowed all the rights of other married people...

I understand that the church can set the standards of who gets to attend the temple and receive the recommend needed, but I see a very large issue if this is allowed to stand. How do you see it affecting us with regards to Bishops and temples?

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[info]coltakashi
2008-05-19 11:38 pm UTC (link)
One would hope that the First Amendment right of free exercise of religion would protect the Church and its leaders from any legal action trying to force recognition of homosexual marriage, let alone perform one.

But then there is the precedent of the New Mexico human rights commission, which penalized a professional photographer who declined for religious reasons to accept a contract to photograph a gay "commitment ceremony" which has no legal status in New Mexico. I think that the fact that the ceremony was nothing more than a role-playing exercise for the plaintiffs, who could easily have hired someone else as a photographer, takes it out of a category of discrimination against "homosexuals" per se and is a legally acceptable difference, even under New Mexico law, since it was the activity that the photographer objected to, not the plaintiffs per se. She said she would be happy to take their photos for, example, a business portfolio related to modeling. It seems her refusal was legally no different than refusing to take pictures of a strip club or something else she found morally objectionable. That case is on appeal to the courts.

I have no doubt that some gay activitists will try to create a lawsuit by asking for a gay marriage to be performed by ministers of religions that object to homosexual activities, including Catholic, LDS, Muslim, and Orthodox Jewish. If they do so, it will galvbanize the political effort to pass the constitutional amendment, as well as to recall the judges who issued the ruling, which I think is the proper democratic response to the judges' usurpation of the people's power of democratic self-government.

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And the majority of people aren't always wiser in judgment, either ...
[info]increasinglypowerful.blogspot.com
2008-05-17 03:08 am UTC (link)
... otherwise, we wouldn't have the three-pronged checks and balances set up by the founding fathers. And otherwise, our church wouldn't always be decrying the evil in going with popular opinion and being swayed by what's "cool."

People whining about this decision disrespect our divinely inspired system of government. Then, on Sunday, they're pasteboarding up a Mormonad in Young Women's meeting urging "Be your own kind of different." The speaker in sacrament meeting is talking about the danger of going along with the popular crowd. "Be in the world, but not of the world," he warns. "Dare to be different." Mothers are imploring: "If everyone else was jumping off a cliff, would you?"

Popularity has nothing to do with right and wrong, just as the church has been teaching for years and years. In fact, as LDS culture teaches, being one of the few has value. Since when is it an LDS value to propose living by what's the "popular will"? And yes, popular will would include statewide referenda.

If everyone is doing it, it must be right! Judging against following something others have voted to be the popular choice is never wise! Make a Mormonad saying that next time and see how long it lasts on the bulletin board in the foyer.

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Re: And the majority of people aren't always wiser in judgment, either ...
(Anonymous)
2008-05-19 07:32 am UTC (link)
The fact that democratic majorities sometimes err is judgment has always been the justification for tyranny by the self-anointed who consider themselves more enlightened than the ordinary person. For example, Barack Obama's comments to his fellow elitists in San Francisco was to the effect that people in rural Pennsylvania just were not smart enough to understand what was good for them. I refer you to the book by Professor Thomas Sowell, The Vision of the Anointed, for an exposition of the thinking of those who consider themselves more enlightened than the rest of us and therefore justified in overruling democratic government of the people BY the people.

Again, I emphasize that it took lawyers and judges to come up with the sophistry of "separate but equal" as a way of avoiding the plain language of equal rights regardless of race embodied in the 14th Amendment. The intent of the PEOPLE in creating the amendment was plain, but it was subverted for a half century by elitist judges.

In this particular case, the 4 out of 7 majority in California has created a controversy that will be the subject of lawsuits and election campaigning and media stories and a LOT of hard feelings. They have issued a call to war. There can be no compromise, they say, with the "evil" ones who would deny gays the label of "marriage". Again, judges who claim to be solicitous of the "rights" of the people seem to care little about the explicit right of the people to create their own laws through election of legislators and voting in referenda.

If you don't believe that people have a right to decide political issues through self-government, then you should admit you are a political elitist and not a democrat (small d).

Remember that it was the PEOPLE who created the US Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, and the Civil War Amendments. Judges have, historically, been 50 to 100 years behind the power curve in actually enforcing these laws. And when judges create new "rights" for minorities that take away the rights of majorities to govern democratically, they are violating their oaths to uphold the Constitution and denying the most fundamental right that is embodied in the core text of the Constitution, namely, that the power to make laws is given to members of Congress who are elected by the PEOPLE.

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